Colm Murphy
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Post by Colm Murphy on Apr 13, 2008 8:39:31 GMT -5
OK anderson silva as said above will beat anyone you put in the cage with him except maybe GSP i see that as a toss up but i would favor GSP as he is my fav fighterbut P4P best fighter is i got to say either GSP or anderson silva and fedor sucks my balls i hate that guy
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Post by Jimmy Thomson on Apr 13, 2008 11:29:50 GMT -5
He hasn't just been subbed by 1 sub-par fighter. Daiju Takase was the other one. Now, right before he entered into the UFC he decimated Tony Fryklund great win there. After that he moved on to Chris Leben, the guy that just moves forward with his jaw up and his hands swinging. Not exactly an upset here. Then he destroyed Rich Franklin and I'll give it to him, he beat a good fighter there. Though I hardly think Franklin is the best. After that he moved on to beat the awesome Travis Lutter... definitely worthy of being P4P the best right there. Next he defeats Nathan Marquardt with ease (also, the ONLY person I can say that is worth mentioning that Marquardt has beat is Ricardo Almeida and he hardly fights now). I don't know about you guys but in order to be P4P the best you actually have to beat top 10 guys consistently. You don't just get the title because you've beat 1 guy. I say Henderson threw that fight because he didn't even look like he tried to defend the RNC. He pulled Andersons arm away with ease then he just let him get it right back, now when I seen this it just came off as odd. A guy, the caliber of Henderson, being subbed by a RNC after he has already defended it once. Now, if you wanna sit there and try to convince me that he is the P4P Best then you can try. Though it won't work..... There are no real rankings and as far as I'm concerned there are tons of fighters who would dominate Silva. Henderson should've been one of them, but he threw the fight.... Yea he threw it, a world class wrestler with the experience of Henderson doesn't get subbed THAT easily. I mean, the NOGUIERA BROTHERS had trouble submitting him and they gave Silva his black belt. But if you want me to sit there and believe that it's completely implausible that Henderson threw the fight to keep people thinking Anderson Silva is this monster and he's not only a great striker but he's also better than the noguiera brothers on the ground then be my guest. So be naive and think that someone would take Pride over a shit load of money. Those guys fight to pay the bills and if they can get more than what they would from throwing a fight than winning then they would take it. Happened in PRIDE with Coleman Vs. Takada and it could very easily happen in the UFC.... Wow, your a Pride nuthugger, all agains the UFC, we understand, its ok, name one Pride fighter and I think Anderson can own him, including Fedor. Wow, if you actually think Anderson can own Fedor you got your head pretty far up Joe Rogan's ass. I am not a PRIDE nut-hugger because PRIDE doesn't exist anymore. I loved PRIDE when it was around because of the exciting fights and emphasis on finishing the fight. I never once stated that one PRIDE fighter could dominate any UFC fighter now did I? Though I do believe you just told me that Anderson Silva could dominate ANY PRIDE fighter though. So that would make you a UFC nut-hugger right? Even though Anderson Silva was technically a PRIDE fighter? I said that I think Gomi could work his way through most of the LW's in the LW division though I could be mistaken... I just enjoy watching "The Fireball Kid"... The guy is a good fighter, one of my favorites, and he has amazing power in his hands. Though I do not consider him the top LW in the world until he manages to beat BJ Penn which I doubt he will. Oh and All because Anderson sucked in PRIDE and does good in the UFC doesn't mean all of sudden he's better than anyone that was in PRIDE. That being said, I see Filho taking him down and beating him, and Lindland could do much of the same. These two guys would not get subbed by him and they would bore him into a unanimous decision in their favor. It's hard to believe that a guy who lost his last two fights in PRIDE to less than stellar fighters is all of sudden this P4P god you guys make him out to be. Is it that the UFC's competition is that good or is it that PRIDE's was that much better? Because honestly Daiju Takase and Ryo Chonan are not good fighters. Fedor has not lost to anyone besides TK and everyone knows that it was over a BS cut. I mean it was a nasty cut and they were in a tournament. So obviously Fedor couldn't continue, but he proved it was a fluke by destroying TK later in his career. Anderson has yet to avenge any of his losses, even his DQ loss to Yushin Okami. Yushin may be an asshole, but a great fighter wouldn't have kicked him like this. youtube.com/watch?v=p-rWsFsuMlwI've never seen BJ, Gomi, Fedor, Crocop, Nogueira, or any great fighter get disqualified over something this retarded. It's obvious that Anderson knew what he was doing, and he did it anyway. Which is exactly why he got DQ'ed... Also, PRIDE's fighter pool wasn't "Better" than the UFC's but 3 people who fought in PRIDE way before fighting in the UFC are champions there now so that says something right? |
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Post by Jimmy Thomson on Apr 13, 2008 11:41:00 GMT -5
OK anderson silva as said above will beat anyone you put in the cage with him except maybe GSP i see that as a toss up but i would favor GSP as he is my fav fighterbut P4P best fighter is i got to say either GSP or anderson silva and fedor sucks my balls i hate that guy Well, that guy could take you down and pound your face into hamburger. Like he would do to Anderson or GSP. Mainly because he's got the weight/size advantage and he's a fucking monster. Anyone that denies Fedor's talent is obviously too busy eating up anything Joe Rogan says and thinking that the UFC's HW's like Kongo are the best the world has to offer. |
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Post by Jimmy Thomson on Apr 13, 2008 11:45:28 GMT -5
I was actually joking with the HMC comment, that wasn't much of a win but he still had trouble with him because of his size. BJ lacks heart, but I think since he's back down to LW his conditioning will be better. He doesn't look all flabby like he did in his fights with GSP or Matt Hughes. I didn't say Fedor was #1 P4P I said if Fedor beats Tim Sylvia he deserves his throne back. Big Tim is probably the toughest test he'll have had since Nogueira or Crocop. Yea, in PRIDE Crocop was a monster. Because he comes to the UFC and gets beat by Gonzaga, a man nobody gave a chance to win really, and Nut-cheick Kongo doesn't mean he's not good at what he does. You seem to forget that in his 2nd loss in the UFC he was kneed in the testicles like 3 or 4 times. Let me knee you in the balls 3 times and see if you wanna keep fighting. He didn't even get a chance to recover until the fuckin' last one. I don't care who you are, you get kneed in the balls and you won't have the gas to continue on for a whole fight. Matt Hughes got kicked in the balls twice and still beat Frank Trigg, but Matt Hughes also ended up on the ground where he was able to outmuscle Frank Trigg and get the RNC. Crocop was up against a guy who outweighed him and was probably stronger than him. Knees to the testicles = hard time fighting. Once Anderson Silva beats Matt Lindland or Paulo Filho (Both LnP'ers) we'll see who is the best MW.... P4P I still feel BJ is the top until Fedor beats some top 10 competition. Kongo kneed Cro Cop in the balls in Round 2, he smashed cro cop in round 3, i love how people bring up the nut comments about cheick just to say that he beat cro cop entirely because he hit him in the balls. Kongo beat Cro Cop because he had a perfect gameplan to stay out of cro cop's leg range and use his height and superior reach to his advantage and he did so, he was a little bit faster than cro cop, had better and faster footwork, i expected him to stand more with herring, but he showed that he added a new element to his game and he can be very dangerous on the ground as well, I am glad that I saw that, after seeing how Carmelo Marrero outwrestled him, I was like "damn, that guys gonna get owned by any good wrestler", but now, he looks better. As for Fedor, Fedor didnt look good against HMC, but I dont think any of us would look good against a guy that is a foot and 2 inches taller than us and weighs about a 100 pounds over us. He still got the armbar, thats what matter, he was already tired once he got it, he really had to work, I think Tim will be a big challenge for Fedor, I think Tim hits harder, I believe Fedor is faster and better on the ground, Tim has a good sprawl, I think Fedor's conditioning is only a hair better. Tim can knock Fedor out if he donks him on the chin a couple of good times, it will be interesting. Its a fight I wanted to see, so I think we will finally get to see it. Also, I've been noticing now that if you post on Sherdog about any good Heavyweight, there are like 3 people that say "he should fight Kimbo, he'd get his ass whooped", ok we get it, Kimbo is a legit MMA fighter now, but who has he really beat? Bo Cantrell, ok, a guy with a 10-10 record, not really the best, and 43 year old Tank Abbott with a 9-14 record and hasnt won a fight in like 2 years and then the rumor of Ken Shamrock! Please lol, my god, Kimbo is fighting James Thompson, James is legit but he hasnt won in a while, all the less, I think Kimbo will win probably by knock out, he will probably catch Thompson one good time on his chin, which is really showed in the past to be his biggest downfall is his chin. I dont think Kimbo is anywhere close to challenging a top 10 yet, but if he keeps working with Bas Rutten and other great fighters, he will be on his way for sure. One more thing, Griffin vs. Rampage, great fight, stoked to see it, gonna order that live for sure, but i order every fight live lol. I love how before Rampage came to the UFC, no one talked about him, he wins the championship and all the sudden he's everyones avatar and people wonder if he could beat Fedor and da da da. Rampage is good, but if you look at it, the Dan Henderson fight, Rampage had a very difficult time with Henderson, fight could've gone either way in my opinion, Rampage barely squeezed that one out, Anderson Silva demolished Dan Henderson and submitted him in the 2nd round. Forrest Griffin beat the crap out of Shogun in a very entertaining war, that being said, I expect Forrest to pull the upset and become the new champion, I just think that whenever you count Forrest out the most, a la Randy Couture, he rises to the occasion aka the Tito Fight, when he fought Tito, people underestimated Forrest, after that fight, everyone thought Forrest won, then he demolished Shogun, no. 1 ranked Lightheavyweight at the time, perfect win for him because Shogun beat up Rampage, I think the way for Forrest to beat Rampage is to make Rampage quit, Rampage has shown in the past that if you beat on him enough, he acts like he doesnt want to be in there anymore. I think Forrest can submit Rampage, but it wont be early into the fight. People think Rampage will knock him out, I doubt that, it will be a good fight, Rampage couldnt even get close to rocking Henderson and Silva rocked him pretty good, Griffin vs. Rampage will probably be like Huerta vs. Guida, fight of the year As I stated before, let me knee you in the balls 3 or 4 times and see how much drive you have left in you to fight. I don't care if it was in the first or third round, getting kneed in the balls is not easy to cope with. Kongo was the bigger man and yea, he did have a good gameplan. He just managed to direct his knees to Crocops balls instead of the inside of his thigh. That's a great way to take away his kicking though, kneeing him the balls and pushing him up against the fence to make the fight boring as hell. Reminded me a lot of Gracie Vs. Sakuraba 2. Only with 1 world class striker and one up-and-coming striker and nutshots. Honestly though, the knees could've thrown less consistently towards his balls. I mean once is an accident, twice is carelessness, three times is cheating.. Rewatch the fight, the ref warns him about the ball shots after like #2 and as the ref is warning him he delivers ANOTHER shot to the balls. Just seems pretty blatant if you ask me. EDIT: I'm not saying Crocop would have beaten or would beat Kongo, I'm just saying that had he not been kneed in the balls it would've been a more credible win. I mean, imagine if Frank Trigg had won that fight with Matt Hughes where he kicked him in the balls twice and then tried to get a RNC on him. Nobody would've been saying that Trigg was deserving of that win. NOBODY! Why? Because it was obvious that it had an impact on the fight.... Just like the Crocop fight. If you guys think that getting kneed in the balls has nothing to do with someone winning or losing a fight then I'll just stop wasting my with you guys then. 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Colm Murphy
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Post by Colm Murphy on Apr 13, 2008 16:06:43 GMT -5
OK anderson silva as said above will beat anyone you put in the cage with him except maybe GSP i see that as a toss up but i would favor GSP as he is my fav fighterbut P4P best fighter is i got to say either GSP or anderson silva and fedor sucks my balls i hate that guy Well, that guy could take you down and pound your face into hamburger. Like he would do to Anderson or GSP. Mainly because he's got the weight/size advantage and he's a fucking monster. Anyone that denies Fedor's talent is obviously too busy eating up anything Joe Rogan says and thinking that the UFC's HW's like Kongo are the best the world has to offer. god no dam kongo sucks he's horrible UFC's HW division is shit and yea fedor would beat GSP and Anderson Silva but only cuz of weight if all the same weight GSP will fuck Fedor up. |
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Post by Jimmy Thomson on Apr 13, 2008 16:38:58 GMT -5
Well, that guy could take you down and pound your face into hamburger. Like he would do to Anderson or GSP. Mainly because he's got the weight/size advantage and he's a fucking monster. Anyone that denies Fedor's talent is obviously too busy eating up anything Joe Rogan says and thinking that the UFC's HW's like Kongo are the best the world has to offer. god no dam kongo sucks he's horrible UFC's HW division is shit and yea fedor would beat GSP and Anderson Silva but only cuz of weight if all the same weight GSP will fuck Fedor up. I dunno about him fucking Fedor up but he would definitely have a good chance of beating him. Fedor is no slouch and he is by far one of the best HW's in the world. I would even consider him P4P top 10 until he beats Tim Sylvia based solely on his dominations of Nogueira and the way Nogueira has come in to the UFC and taken the HW division by storm. He will soon be fighting some tougher competition than Heath Herring though. Tim Sylvia was taking the fight to him and if he does that to Fedor we could see a big time KO for him. EDIT: Fedor is damn good, and I think he is the best until he's beaten. Unless he dodges top 10 competition for the rest of his career which he's not. Do I think he's unstoppable? No, anyone can beat anyone on any given day. That's the beauty of MMA. |
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Post by Furdjel De Windt on Apr 13, 2008 17:40:20 GMT -5
Kongo kneed Cro Cop in the balls in Round 2, he smashed cro cop in round 3, i love how people bring up the nut comments about cheick just to say that he beat cro cop entirely because he hit him in the balls. Kongo beat Cro Cop because he had a perfect gameplan to stay out of cro cop's leg range and use his height and superior reach to his advantage and he did so, he was a little bit faster than cro cop, had better and faster footwork, i expected him to stand more with herring, but he showed that he added a new element to his game and he can be very dangerous on the ground as well, I am glad that I saw that, after seeing how Carmelo Marrero outwrestled him, I was like "damn, that guys gonna get owned by any good wrestler", but now, he looks better. As for Fedor, Fedor didnt look good against HMC, but I dont think any of us would look good against a guy that is a foot and 2 inches taller than us and weighs about a 100 pounds over us. He still got the armbar, thats what matter, he was already tired once he got it, he really had to work, I think Tim will be a big challenge for Fedor, I think Tim hits harder, I believe Fedor is faster and better on the ground, Tim has a good sprawl, I think Fedor's conditioning is only a hair better. Tim can knock Fedor out if he donks him on the chin a couple of good times, it will be interesting. Its a fight I wanted to see, so I think we will finally get to see it. Also, I've been noticing now that if you post on Sherdog about any good Heavyweight, there are like 3 people that say "he should fight Kimbo, he'd get his ass whooped", ok we get it, Kimbo is a legit MMA fighter now, but who has he really beat? Bo Cantrell, ok, a guy with a 10-10 record, not really the best, and 43 year old Tank Abbott with a 9-14 record and hasnt won a fight in like 2 years and then the rumor of Ken Shamrock! Please lol, my god, Kimbo is fighting James Thompson, James is legit but he hasnt won in a while, all the less, I think Kimbo will win probably by knock out, he will probably catch Thompson one good time on his chin, which is really showed in the past to be his biggest downfall is his chin. I dont think Kimbo is anywhere close to challenging a top 10 yet, but if he keeps working with Bas Rutten and other great fighters, he will be on his way for sure. One more thing, Griffin vs. Rampage, great fight, stoked to see it, gonna order that live for sure, but i order every fight live lol. I love how before Rampage came to the UFC, no one talked about him, he wins the championship and all the sudden he's everyones avatar and people wonder if he could beat Fedor and da da da. Rampage is good, but if you look at it, the Dan Henderson fight, Rampage had a very difficult time with Henderson, fight could've gone either way in my opinion, Rampage barely squeezed that one out, Anderson Silva demolished Dan Henderson and submitted him in the 2nd round. Forrest Griffin beat the crap out of Shogun in a very entertaining war, that being said, I expect Forrest to pull the upset and become the new champion, I just think that whenever you count Forrest out the most, a la Randy Couture, he rises to the occasion aka the Tito Fight, when he fought Tito, people underestimated Forrest, after that fight, everyone thought Forrest won, then he demolished Shogun, no. 1 ranked Lightheavyweight at the time, perfect win for him because Shogun beat up Rampage, I think the way for Forrest to beat Rampage is to make Rampage quit, Rampage has shown in the past that if you beat on him enough, he acts like he doesnt want to be in there anymore. I think Forrest can submit Rampage, but it wont be early into the fight. People think Rampage will knock him out, I doubt that, it will be a good fight, Rampage couldnt even get close to rocking Henderson and Silva rocked him pretty good, Griffin vs. Rampage will probably be like Huerta vs. Guida, fight of the year As I stated before, let me knee you in the balls 3 or 4 times and see how much drive you have left in you to fight. I don't care if it was in the first or third round, getting kneed in the balls is not easy to cope with. Kongo was the bigger man and yea, he did have a good gameplan. He just managed to direct his knees to Crocops balls instead of the inside of his thigh. That's a great way to take away his kicking though, kneeing him the balls and pushing him up against the fence to make the fight boring as hell. Reminded me a lot of Gracie Vs. Sakuraba 2. Only with 1 world class striker and one up-and-coming striker and nutshots. Honestly though, the knees could've thrown less consistently towards his balls. I mean once is an accident, twice is carelessness, three times is cheating.. Rewatch the fight, the ref warns him about the ball shots after like #2 and as the ref is warning him he delivers ANOTHER shot to the balls. Just seems pretty blatant if you ask me. EDIT: I'm not saying Crocop would have beaten or would beat Kongo, I'm just saying that had he not been kneed in the balls it would've been a more credible win. I mean, imagine if Frank Trigg had won that fight with Matt Hughes where he kicked him in the balls twice and then tried to get a RNC on him. Nobody would've been saying that Trigg was deserving of that win. NOBODY! Why? Because it was obvious that it had an impact on the fight.... Just like the Crocop fight. If you guys think that getting kneed in the balls has nothing to do with someone winning or losing a fight then I'll just stop wasting my with you guys then. If you think this, then you know nothing about fighting and you're a waste of my time. US? wasting your time, by the way, this is Gesias but in different character. Ok, I understand what your point is, but....go back and watch the fight again, before that happened, Kongo was already taking over, about 3 and half minutes into the 2nd, thats when he kneed him, before then he was kicking him in the body and leg over and over again and maybe an occasional right hand. Ok, that was the 2nd round, only the 2nd, what happened the 3rd round huh?? Continuously Kongo was kicking him in the body, I know what you try to explain, but you need to brush up on watching the fight. The Frank Trigg-Hughes 2 fight was an excellent example, that was bad reffing though, had it been big John, fight would've been paused, Frank would've been underserving but hell, Matt could smash him in a 3rd fight, so thats taken care of, there's cases of bad reffing everywhere, bring up James Thompson vs. Don Frye, Thompson was wailing on Frye in the corner, Frye did absolutely nothing, the ref didnt wait until Don turned his back to avoid being hit, I am sorry I had to bring up your character, but thats what happened, its all apart of MMA, if you keep trying to make up excuses for little shit that happens, its retarded because the fact is it is a part of MMA, we will bring up GSP vs. Hughes 2 now, accidents happen right? Gsp kicks Hughes, pauses fight, starts fight again, first kick to the leg hits him again, Kongo same way, 2 or 3 knees to the groin, not on purpose, do you think anyone would do that shit on purpose, even Kimbo doesnt do that on purpose lmao. Obviously the one that doesnt know anything about fighting is YOU because any logical person would just say "hey thats a part of MMA", not you making excuses for fighters to kinda not give the other fighter the credit he deserves for that fight, Kongo did a hell of a job, he beat Cro Cop fair and square, Cro cop was mentally not right at the time, I would love to see a rematch and see what would happen, Kongo is ever improving. Your a typical sherdogger, its no problem, thats how they all act. |
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Post by Furdjel De Windt on Apr 13, 2008 17:42:37 GMT -5
Well, that guy could take you down and pound your face into hamburger. Like he would do to Anderson or GSP. Mainly because he's got the weight/size advantage and he's a fucking monster. Anyone that denies Fedor's talent is obviously too busy eating up anything Joe Rogan says and thinking that the UFC's HW's like Kongo are the best the world has to offer. god no dam kongo sucks he's horrible UFC's HW division is shit and yea fedor would beat GSP and Anderson Silva but only cuz of weight if all the same weight GSP will fuck Fedor up. How does Kongo suck? UFC Heavyweight Division is somewhat better than it has been, Kongo really impressed me in the fight with Herring, much improved Ground, but unfortunately, he used it too much when I think that he could've won keeping the fight standing anyways. But maybe also that Heath is improving, he did say the Nogueira fight with a blessing in disguise, sometimes you gotta give these guys more credit, its them in the cage, not you |
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Post by Jimmy Thomson on Apr 13, 2008 19:02:15 GMT -5
As I stated before, let me knee you in the balls 3 or 4 times and see how much drive you have left in you to fight. I don't care if it was in the first or third round, getting kneed in the balls is not easy to cope with. Kongo was the bigger man and yea, he did have a good gameplan. He just managed to direct his knees to Crocops balls instead of the inside of his thigh. That's a great way to take away his kicking though, kneeing him the balls and pushing him up against the fence to make the fight boring as hell. Reminded me a lot of Gracie Vs. Sakuraba 2. Only with 1 world class striker and one up-and-coming striker and nutshots. Honestly though, the knees could've thrown less consistently towards his balls. I mean once is an accident, twice is carelessness, three times is cheating.. Rewatch the fight, the ref warns him about the ball shots after like #2 and as the ref is warning him he delivers ANOTHER shot to the balls. Just seems pretty blatant if you ask me. EDIT: I'm not saying Crocop would have beaten or would beat Kongo, I'm just saying that had he not been kneed in the balls it would've been a more credible win. I mean, imagine if Frank Trigg had won that fight with Matt Hughes where he kicked him in the balls twice and then tried to get a RNC on him. Nobody would've been saying that Trigg was deserving of that win. NOBODY! Why? Because it was obvious that it had an impact on the fight.... Just like the Crocop fight. If you guys think that getting kneed in the balls has nothing to do with someone winning or losing a fight then I'll just stop wasting my with you guys then. If you think this, then you know nothing about fighting and you're a waste of my time. US? wasting your time, by the way, this is Gesias but in different character. Ok, I understand what your point is, but....go back and watch the fight again, before that happened, Kongo was already taking over, about 3 and half minutes into the 2nd, thats when he kneed him, before then he was kicking him in the body and leg over and over again and maybe an occasional right hand. Ok, that was the 2nd round, only the 2nd, what happened the 3rd round huh?? Continuously Kongo was kicking him in the body, I know what you try to explain, but you need to brush up on watching the fight. The Frank Trigg-Hughes 2 fight was an excellent example, that was bad reffing though, had it been big John, fight would've been paused, Frank would've been underserving but hell, Matt could smash him in a 3rd fight, so thats taken care of, there's cases of bad reffing everywhere, bring up James Thompson vs. Don Frye, Thompson was wailing on Frye in the corner, Frye did absolutely nothing, the ref didnt wait until Don turned his back to avoid being hit, I am sorry I had to bring up your character, but thats what happened, its all apart of MMA, if you keep trying to make up excuses for little shit that happens, its retarded because the fact is it is a part of MMA, we will bring up GSP vs. Hughes 2 now, accidents happen right? Gsp kicks Hughes, pauses fight, starts fight again, first kick to the leg hits him again, Kongo same way, 2 or 3 knees to the groin, not on purpose, do you think anyone would do that shit on purpose, even Kimbo doesnt do that on purpose lmao. Obviously the one that doesnt know anything about fighting is YOU because any logical person would just say "hey thats a part of MMA", not you making excuses for fighters to kinda not give the other fighter the credit he deserves for that fight, Kongo did a hell of a job, he beat Cro Cop fair and square, Cro cop was mentally not right at the time, I would love to see a rematch and see what would happen, Kongo is ever improving. Your a typical sherdogger, its no problem, thats how they all act. Sherdogger, lol, I actually don't have an account on Sherdog but that's cool. I do go to Sherdog for play-by-play and such but that's nothing. I understand what you're saying about the Kongo/Crocop fight. These things do happen quite often, but better reffing = possibly a different outcome... As I stated before I'm not saying Crocop would've or will beat Kongo if they ever fight again. I'm just saying that the knees to the groin definitely kept him from mounting any kind of comeback. I also stated that One groin shot is an accident, Two is just carelessness (GSP), Three is cheating. If Kongo didn't do it on purpose then I still say that Crocop would've had a better chance of mounting a comeback and to me that loss takes nothing away from Crocop. The man is still dangerous as hell and can KO most anyone. WAR DON FRYE!!! Just so you guys know I don't take these things personal. I just simply enjoy a good arguement. |
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Post by Colm Murphy on Apr 13, 2008 19:13:11 GMT -5
I also stated that One groin shot is an accident, Two is just carelessness (GSP), Three is cheating.
HAHA GSP that was sick a few nice kicks to the groin always does the trick
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Post by Furdjel De Windt on Apr 13, 2008 19:45:56 GMT -5
US? wasting your time, by the way, this is Gesias but in different character. Ok, I understand what your point is, but....go back and watch the fight again, before that happened, Kongo was already taking over, about 3 and half minutes into the 2nd, thats when he kneed him, before then he was kicking him in the body and leg over and over again and maybe an occasional right hand. Ok, that was the 2nd round, only the 2nd, what happened the 3rd round huh?? Continuously Kongo was kicking him in the body, I know what you try to explain, but you need to brush up on watching the fight. The Frank Trigg-Hughes 2 fight was an excellent example, that was bad reffing though, had it been big John, fight would've been paused, Frank would've been underserving but hell, Matt could smash him in a 3rd fight, so thats taken care of, there's cases of bad reffing everywhere, bring up James Thompson vs. Don Frye, Thompson was wailing on Frye in the corner, Frye did absolutely nothing, the ref didnt wait until Don turned his back to avoid being hit, I am sorry I had to bring up your character, but thats what happened, its all apart of MMA, if you keep trying to make up excuses for little shit that happens, its retarded because the fact is it is a part of MMA, we will bring up GSP vs. Hughes 2 now, accidents happen right? Gsp kicks Hughes, pauses fight, starts fight again, first kick to the leg hits him again, Kongo same way, 2 or 3 knees to the groin, not on purpose, do you think anyone would do that shit on purpose, even Kimbo doesnt do that on purpose lmao. Obviously the one that doesnt know anything about fighting is YOU because any logical person would just say "hey thats a part of MMA", not you making excuses for fighters to kinda not give the other fighter the credit he deserves for that fight, Kongo did a hell of a job, he beat Cro Cop fair and square, Cro cop was mentally not right at the time, I would love to see a rematch and see what would happen, Kongo is ever improving. Your a typical sherdogger, its no problem, thats how they all act. Sherdogger, lol, I actually don't have an account on Sherdog but that's cool. I do go to Sherdog for play-by-play and such but that's nothing. I understand what you're saying about the Kongo/Crocop fight. These things do happen quite often, but better reffing = possibly a different outcome... As I stated before I'm not saying Crocop would've or will beat Kongo if they ever fight again. I'm just saying that the knees to the groin definitely kept him from mounting any kind of comeback. I also stated that One groin shot is an accident, Two is just carelessness (GSP), Three is cheating. If Kongo didn't do it on purpose then I still say that Crocop would've had a better chance of mounting a comeback and to me that loss takes nothing away from Crocop. The man is still dangerous as hell and can KO most anyone. WAR DON FRYE!!! Just so you guys know I don't take these things personal. I just simply enjoy a good arguement. Yea same here, you do have a good point, also, yes, WAR DON FRYE!! same here about Sherdog, the forums are somewhat quite interesting, I compared you to one, because thats what they say on there lol, Yea I agree with the rule of what you said, one is accident, two is carelessness and three is cheating, i agree with that. Cro Cop is still dangerous, he beat the hell of Tizuno and I think he will do great in Dream. I hope they have a heavyweight tournament soon, I think Gesias Calvancanti will win the Dream Lightweight Tournament, I hate Mitsuhiro Ishida, all he does is do repeated takedowns over and over again, its annoying after a while. Don Frye vs. Taktavor should have happened, Yamma was such a wreck anyways, good thing Frye didnt get involved in that |
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Post by Jimmy Thomson on Apr 13, 2008 20:15:34 GMT -5
Sherdogger, lol, I actually don't have an account on Sherdog but that's cool. I do go to Sherdog for play-by-play and such but that's nothing. I understand what you're saying about the Kongo/Crocop fight. These things do happen quite often, but better reffing = possibly a different outcome... As I stated before I'm not saying Crocop would've or will beat Kongo if they ever fight again. I'm just saying that the knees to the groin definitely kept him from mounting any kind of comeback. I also stated that One groin shot is an accident, Two is just carelessness (GSP), Three is cheating. If Kongo didn't do it on purpose then I still say that Crocop would've had a better chance of mounting a comeback and to me that loss takes nothing away from Crocop. The man is still dangerous as hell and can KO most anyone. WAR DON FRYE!!! Just so you guys know I don't take these things personal. I just simply enjoy a good arguement. Yea same here, you do have a good point, also, yes, WAR DON FRYE!! same here about Sherdog, the forums are somewhat quite interesting, I compared you to one, because thats what they say on there lol, Yea I agree with the rule of what you said, one is accident, two is carelessness and three is cheating, i agree with that. Cro Cop is still dangerous, he beat the hell of Tizuno and I think he will do great in Dream. I hope they have a heavyweight tournament soon, I think Gesias Calvancanti will win the Dream Lightweight Tournament, I hate Mitsuhiro Ishida, all he does is do repeated takedowns over and over again, its annoying after a while. Don Frye vs. Taktavor should have happened, Yamma was such a wreck anyways, good thing Frye didnt get involved in that Calvancanti is a dangerous man, though it would be nice to see him win the tournament he has some stiff competition to beat still. Him and Aoki still haven't had their rematch and whoever wins that I say will probably win the tournament. Also, Yamma was a big disaster. I'm glad Don Frye didn't get involved, though I would've like to see him Vs. Oleg Taktarov it just wasn't meant to be. Don Frye's Stache helps him sense bullshit from miles away. EDIT: I think Mitsuhiro Ishida is a joke, which is why I loved seeing Gomi KO him so much. |
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Post by Furdjel De Windt on Apr 13, 2008 21:29:34 GMT -5
Yea same here, you do have a good point, also, yes, WAR DON FRYE!! same here about Sherdog, the forums are somewhat quite interesting, I compared you to one, because thats what they say on there lol, Yea I agree with the rule of what you said, one is accident, two is carelessness and three is cheating, i agree with that. Cro Cop is still dangerous, he beat the hell of Tizuno and I think he will do great in Dream. I hope they have a heavyweight tournament soon, I think Gesias Calvancanti will win the Dream Lightweight Tournament, I hate Mitsuhiro Ishida, all he does is do repeated takedowns over and over again, its annoying after a while. Don Frye vs. Taktavor should have happened, Yamma was such a wreck anyways, good thing Frye didnt get involved in that Calvancanti is a dangerous man, though it would be nice to see him win the tournament he has some stiff competition to beat still. Him and Aoki still haven't had their rematch and whoever wins that I say will probably win the tournament. Also, Yamma was a big disaster. I'm glad Don Frye didn't get involved, though I would've like to see him Vs. Oleg Taktarov it just wasn't meant to be. Don Frye's Stache helps him sense bullshit from miles away. EDIT: I think Mitsuhiro Ishida is a joke, which is why I loved seeing Gomi KO him so much. Oh i hate him too for sure, I just dont know why i dont like him, i just hate his style, his fight with Melendez was very good, but he was so one dimensional that it made me wanna throw up, all he did was take him down over and over and over again, that was the fight. Thank god Gomi knocked him out, I dont like Gomi either, I think Gomi is overrated and a lot of UFC LW's could beat him, Sherk would maul him, Bj would kill him again. If Calvancanti doesnt win the tournament, I say either Alvarez or Kawajiri, Alvarez showed that he belongs against stiff competition, Dida was no joke and Alvarez handled him really good |
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